Originally by: Theron Gyrow

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I did some number-crunching with numbers reported from SiSi - if you notice mistakes / wrong numbers, please let me know.

All dreads with maxed skills, 3*damage mod, 5*Bouncer II, short-range weapons and ammo:

Phoenix (new kinetic torps): 8547 DPS (8285 DPS from torps), 37km range.
Naglfar (new EMP/PP/Fusion ammo, new torps): 8470 DPS, 12.5km optimal and 24km falloff for guns (6202 DPS from them), 37km range for torps (2005 DPS from them). Almost full damage type choice.
Moros (with 20%/level to drones): 6941 DPS (6416 DPS from guns), 15km optimal and 11km falloff.
Revelation: 6485 DPS (6223 DPS from guns), 20km optimal and 6km falloff.

In other words, the ships not needing cap to fire, able to pick the damage type they do (even if only somewhat with Phoenix) _and_ better able to fit damage mods do about 1/4-1/3 more damage than the ships that need cap and are stuck with the damage types and which gimp their tank worse when fitting damage mods. No, this is not balanced.



All dreads with maxed skills, 3*damage mod, 5*Bouncer II, long-range weapons and shortest-range ammo (if no changes to arty DPS and rail/beam RoF same as in TQ):

Phoenix (new kinetic cruises): 3671 DPS from missiles + 263 DPS from drones = 3934 DPS total, theoretical range 157km.
Naglfar (new arty ammo, new cruises): 4535 DPS (3443 from arty, 1092 from missiles) + 263 DPS from drones = 4798 DPS total, 45km optimal + 87.5km falloff for arty, 157km range for cruises.
Moros (with 20%/level to drones): 3182 DPS + 525 DPS from drones = 3707 DPS total, 60km optimal + 30.6km falloff (60km max range for drones)
Revelation: 3743 DPS + 263 DPS from drones = 4006 DPS total, 45km optimal + 28km falloff

I don't know if Naglfar will be badly enough hampered by the long-range ammo change that Moros/Revelation will be competitive at extreme-range sniping, but even if that was a viable tactic to use, the balance seems pretty bad here, too.

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